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08-31-2010, 11:46 AM
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| Cancuncare Guru Join Date: 7th May 2006 Location: Cancun
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|  Castillo del Mar Bar Cancun - News Has anyone else heard this news today? Molotov cocktails thrown into this downtown bar and 8 people killed. Reports on the radio state the owner had refused to pay protection money. I have been told it is already on CNN - off to check. Take Care Tracey |
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08-31-2010, 12:12 PM
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| Moderator woooo!!!!  Join Date: 10th Jan 2008 Location: Cancun woooo
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| one of my friends for the US told me about it, i read that it was in region 229 |
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08-31-2010, 12:12 PM
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| I can choose my own title  Join Date: 13th Apr 2003 Location: Cancun. QR, Mexico
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| It's on Fox but the bar not named. |
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08-31-2010, 12:14 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru  Join Date: 30th Apr 2007
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| Tracey - when has Reg 229 on the wrong side of Portillo been in Downtown? More utter rubbish by the media - and why the international attention??
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08-31-2010, 12:20 PM
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08-31-2010, 12:25 PM
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| I can choose my own title Join Date: 13th Apr 2003 Location: Cancun. QR, Mexico
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| Some of the news is saying "a popular area of Cancun" but this in not popular for me. This place is on Leona Vicario, east of Kabah. 10 heavily armed men arrived at 1 am and herded everyone to an area of the bar that was away from any exit. They tossed the molotav cocktails and the place burned to the ground. 8 dead and 2 more in serious condition. They were driving a VW Jetta and a Silverado. THIS IS NOT IN A TOURIST AREA OR REMOTELY NEAR ANYWHERE A TOURIST WOULD GO. IT IS SAD FOR FAMILY AND FRIENDS OF THOSE DEAD AND INJURED BUT IT WOULD SHOCK ME IF A GRINGO HAS EVEN BEEN INSIDE OF THIS PLACE. EVERYONE SHOULD BE CAUTIOUS AND CONCERNED BUT THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR POTENTIAL TOURISTS TO CONCERN THEMSELVES WITH. IMHO ANYWAY.
__________________ T.J. Cancun, Q. R. Mexico Jesus said: "My food is to do what God wants. He is the one who sent me and I must finish the work that he gave me to do." John 4:34 |
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08-31-2010, 12:34 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru Join Date: 15th Dec 2005 Location: Cancún, Mexico
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| If they were "heavily armed" why would they need molotov cocktails? There are varying reports going around.. but it seems to not fit the established MO of "zetas" as they tend to use guns... the Jetta also doesn't match the standard vehicles they like to use... I'm thinking local street scum wannabe "zetas" did this.. but who knows... either way it makes me sick that there are people who would do things like this... |
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08-31-2010, 12:49 PM
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| I can choose my own title Join Date: 13th Apr 2003 Location: Cancun. QR, Mexico
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| Life, 10 guys, heavily armed, don't seem out of line if there is a message being sent, which seems to be the M.O. of so many recent killings all over Mexico. If that message was to be understood, folks had to die and damage had to be done. If they wanted lots of deaths in a dramatic fashion, and to eliminate the business altogether, using strength in numbers and weapons to get the victims in an area with no escape route and to miniumize the risk to the attackers, this makes some degree of sense, in this regard. Don't you think? I know we all think big black Suburbans and Escalades but Jetta's can be fast and a Silverado would blend right in with the working crowd. These are my thoughts anyway. Want to go out there and gawk?
__________________ T.J. Cancun, Q. R. Mexico Jesus said: "My food is to do what God wants. He is the one who sent me and I must finish the work that he gave me to do." John 4:34 |
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08-31-2010, 12:57 PM
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08-31-2010, 01:03 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru Join Date: 7th May 2006 Location: Cancun
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| Unfortunately this story is on CNN and on the BBC- it does not explain where the bar is or that it does not effect tourists - It just states"Tourist resort of Cancun" . The BBC website has an option to write a comment -I have stating it is nowhere near the tourists areas. The truth is however that this sort of thing does damage the city and damages tourism. Tracey. |
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08-31-2010, 01:05 PM
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08-31-2010, 01:09 PM
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| Cancuncare Newbie  Join Date: 30th Aug 2010 Location: Cancun, ZH
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| Who's else's family is calling hysterically from home wondering why we live is such a dangerous country/city? I have always felt safe here, even at home you have to be careful in what neighborhoods you hang out. Funny the people at home know before you do.
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08-31-2010, 01:50 PM
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| Cancuncare Regular  Join Date: 28th Jan 2007 Location: Puerto Morelos
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| Thsi article has a picture of the place. Could not find it on Google streetview. Ataca comando antro en la Región 229 de Cancún: lo incendia y mueren 8 personas - Cancún I'm working in a news room today...defending my adopted country!
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08-31-2010, 02:00 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru  Join Date: 12th Feb 2010
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| Fox News is calling it a "Cancun Hot Spot" The sensationalism would be hilarious if it weren't so depressing. |
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08-31-2010, 02:02 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru Join Date: 7th May 2006 Location: Cancun
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| I notice the BBC has edited its original version after local residents updated them on the exact location of the bar !!! Well done to the BBC for that. Tracey |
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08-31-2010, 02:26 PM
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| I can choose my own title Join Date: 13th Apr 2003 Location: Cancun. QR, Mexico
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| THE PLOT THICKENS: This is the English translation exerpted from an August 4 news story: Agents of an elite corps of the judicial police arrested a man identified as "Martin" who sought to extort the owner of a bar in the Gaza Ejidal Cancun. The judicial police on Tuesday night received the report on the emergency number 066 of extortion, in the bar called Castillo de Mar, located in Region 229 on Av. Leona Vicario Avenue near the corner of Av. Kabah. Agents from FRAI arrived at the scene and upon arrival at the bar called "Castillo del Mar" located in Region 229, on Avenue Leona Vicario near the corner of Av. Kabah, the owner said that this person came just before closing and was demanding $40,000.
__________________ T.J. Cancun, Q. R. Mexico Jesus said: "My food is to do what God wants. He is the one who sent me and I must finish the work that he gave me to do." John 4:34 |
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08-31-2010, 03:01 PM
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| Owner and Administrator  Join Date: 14th Feb 2003 Location: Cancun, Mexico
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| The bar is about 2 blocks from where Jannets' Mum lives in 93. She knows of it and when we told her about the news she said 'it's a horrible place full of narcos'. It seems strange to me, that if the intention was to kill people, that armed men decide to throw incendiaries rather than use the guns they had with them at the time. My pure speculation is that the intention was to burn the place to the ground, the deaths being a result of the ferocity of the fire and lack of escape routes. My advice remains, if you put yourself in vulnerable positions such as visiting a seedy table dancing bar in a dodgy area of town that happens to be a known haunt of narco's and other undesirables at 1:30am on a Tuesday morning then you shouldnt be surprised if something bad happens. If on the other hand, that kind of activity is not your idea of fun then you are about as safe, if not moreso, than anywhere. |
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08-31-2010, 03:14 PM
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| Cancuncare Regular Join Date: 28th Jan 2007 Location: Puerto Morelos
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| Just found it on Google Street View Cancun bar bombing - Google Maps |
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08-31-2010, 05:01 PM
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| Cancuncare Regular Join Date: 3rd Feb 2007 Location: Isla Mujeres
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| My thoughts: A quick stab at making a triply castle burn to the ground, failed. 8 deaths is a mass murder, sorry to say. It will blow over, but geez, can't our bad guys be more clever?
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08-31-2010, 05:46 PM
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| There are a lot of comparisons to the prohibition days in the states. Lots of bad guys killing each other off fighting over turf for who is going to run booze, drugs, prostitution and protection. Innocent bystanders that weren't into any of that didn't have a lot of problems. Same thing. So where is our Ellioto Nesso??? You can keep J.Edgar Hooverino. |
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08-31-2010, 06:59 PM
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| Cancuncare Sun Care Advisor  Join Date: 23rd Jan 2009 Location: Cancun via PHILLY!!!
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| It's a very easy neighborhood to get to from the HZ. If you stay on the R-2, it goes out to Poseos (sp?) Kabah, which is just beyond the bombing. Ounce your out past Lopez Portillo, people will look and stare and most times ask if you are lost. |
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09-01-2010, 10:02 AM
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| Cancuncare Regular Join Date: 3rd Feb 2007 Location: Isla Mujeres
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| A gang initiation task! Urrrgghhhhhhh! |
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09-01-2010, 11:54 AM
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| I can choose my own title  Join Date: 1st Aug 2005 Location: Cancun
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| Apparently they've been trying to extort the owner of the bar for "protection" money and he wouldn't pay, he in fact reported it to the authorities. I guess this is what happens if you don't pay up, brutal. :S
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09-01-2010, 01:03 PM
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09-01-2010, 01:23 PM
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09-01-2010, 01:26 PM
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| Arson in the US....30 500 deliberately set fires in 2008 resulting in 315 deaths. USFA Arson Fire Statistics |
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09-01-2010, 01:59 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru Join Date: 30th Dec 2005 Location: Minnesota
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| If there had been a firebomb murder it would have made the headlines. The news I watch didnt mention the Cancun murders. |
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09-02-2010, 11:53 PM
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| I can choose my own title Join Date: 13th Apr 2003 Location: Cancun. QR, Mexico
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| A guy named Martin was arrested there Aug 4, supposedly came in at closing time and was trying to extort $40,000. The owner called 066 (is that the Mexican 911?) and Martin was arrested. Funny I don't know the emergency number but I know Pizza Hut by heart.
__________________ T.J. Cancun, Q. R. Mexico Jesus said: "My food is to do what God wants. He is the one who sent me and I must finish the work that he gave me to do." John 4:34 |
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09-03-2010, 12:39 PM
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| Cancuncare Regular Join Date: 3rd Feb 2007 Location: Isla Mujeres
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| 066 is Q Roo emergency dispatch aka 911 en espanol. |
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09-03-2010, 01:33 PM
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| Cancuncare Guru Join Date: 15th Dec 2005 Location: Cancún, Mexico
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| We called 066 once for an intruder at my neighbors place.. about 45 minutes later two good sized (as in fat, not fit) cops showed up in a pickup... the whole time we had held the intruder at bay in the back area.. they took him off and released him about 12 hours later from what I understand... so that's probably the one and only time we'll ever call the police here... God help the next intruder we catch.. |
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