We want to move from India to Cancun

[patzee]

Hello, im a mexican girl married to an indian , we got married in india now i have my residence permit here, but we really love Cancun, i worked there he has visited several times some years ago and we would like to know if you guys are familiar with the steps we must take in order to move there

do i have to get married again in mexico?? or is there a way we can just register the marriage wich had been done in india already

he wants to work.....what is the process? does he has to wait for years to get a visa that allows work in mexico?

im extremely interested in getting opinions of people that have had this kind of situation

i would really aprecciate ur help guys

thanks a lot

[V]

Officially registered marriages are typically recognized around the world.

Faced with a desire to immigrate to Mexico I'd,

1) get all of my husband's diplomas and degrees certified and appostiled; same, with husband's and children's birth certificates, and, the marriage certificate.

2) Apply for jobs, trying to find an employer who would make a written job offer on which a visa application could be based.

3) With all documents at the ready, apply either for a resident visa with permission to work, if he'd gotten an offer; or, if he'd not been able to find a job from a distance, apply for a tourist visa, with the intention of his looking for work once he got here (a suggestion that risks running up quite a tab in travel, even if successful, but may be the only way to get a solid job offer).
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You could also try applying for a temporary resident visa for him based on his marriage to you, but without your having a job in Mexico the Mexican Embassy might look askance at this.

I wouldn't recommend, as the first option, your going to Mexico to get set up, with the idea he'd follow when he got permission, as this permission might never come and years together could be lost.
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There are few Indians, it seems in Mexico. (I've personally not seen a single Indian on the streets of Cancun in two and a half years of living here.)

Given that you find Indians everywhere, it has crossed my mind that Mexico may practice some means of limiting Indian immigration. If that's the case to any degree it will mean, at the least, that you must put you and your husband in the strongest possible position to immigrate before trying to do so.
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[rawkus]

patzee: To add to V´s first point: Make sure to get it ALL translated to Spanish.

I had to first translate my documents, THEN certify and in some cases, apostille them. IMSS(social security) didnt accept my application due to the fact that the translation was done after the certification.

[V]

Not to confuse things, but I can't agree with that, Rawkus.

Certification of the original documents will be done by the agencies that issue the documents; apostilizations are done by the authorities appointed in the country in which the documents originate (in this case, India); translations, which in most cases must be done by a certified Mexican Perito to be acceptable, will require locating a Mexican Perito and then corresponding with them about how best to provide them the documents to be translated.

Relying on experiences you may have had with the processes involved may not always be a reliable guide in this context, where the law and international treaties prescribe how these things are to be done, and complying with those laws guarantees the acceptability of the documents generated.

[rawkus]

V: Had to do the same with my school papers, both the ones from Sweden and Australia.

First I had to translate them(Raquel, the lady you recommended) then get them "authenticated" by the Swedish Consulate, with the translation included.

The Consulate stands above the translator and thus had to be the "final" part. If not, I could have given the Swedish papers to the Consulate, and then made up a phony translation.

My Australian diploma was a bit more messy: A friend picked it up in Melbourne, translated it through the Mexican Consulate in Melbourne, where they also authenticated it, then sent it to Cancun.

Maybe there are several ways of going about it all?

This worked for me - the other way around, did not.

Edit: "but I can't agree with that" - Dont think "they" care if you/me agree with it or not. Thats the way I was told to do it, so I did, and it worked.

[V]

Rawkus, of course it's fine to talk about your experience, but it doesn't represent a generic, generally applicable approach which is provided for by treaty, and therefore represent something of use to most people. Plus, the terminology often gets all garbled up- original, certified, apostiled, authenticated- unless the terms are carefully applied, making this whole area very confusing to people.

For example, the use of the word, authenticated, which has a special meaning in this context. In countries which are parties to the Hague Convention, and India is, following certification documents are apostiled, rather than authenticated. They do not follow a process of authentification, as that term is used in this context, because of the provisions of the Hague Convention. I'm guessing you were not attempting to apply the term in this narrow, technical sense, when you spoke of authenification, as Sweden, also, is a party to the Hague Convention.
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I, like you, had to do some improvising with one of my educational certificates because it would have been very expensive to get it authenticated (in the technical use of the term, as the country which issued it is not a party to the Hague Convention); so, I executed a certificate before the U.S. Consulate agent here in Cancun to the effect that the document in my possession was the original, had been in my possession since the date it was issued to me, and that I was the person named in the document. With the great seal of the U.S. impressed in the paper, the INM found it to be acceptable for their purposes.

[rawkus]

V: I should have written: "In my case" from the start.

I only followed the instructions given my IMSS, The Australian Embassy, The Swedish Embassy, INM and Raquel.

Never bothered to research the Hague Convention, as it was faster and easier to follow the previous mentioned organizations/institutions advice.

The Australian Embassy told me that "apostille was NOT needed, but rather a simple "authentication", as did my UNI in Melbourne. My Swedish Embassy in DF stated that "thats more than enough", and also told me the importance of having it translated before running to the Consulate for them to stamp.

IMSS refused to do anything until I got the "a-ok" from my Consulate on both the translation and the authentication.

If it works, I dont question it.

[V]

IMSS was the trickiest one for us. They required original, certified, apostiled and officially translated (Mexican Perito) birth certificates for both me, and my wife. Mine was not so problematic, but my wife's involved quite a long process, as she was born in Germany.

A new, original German birth certificate was issued for her, then certified by the vital statistics department of the state of Germany in which she was born; it was then sent by mail to be apostiled at another department of state government; then forwarded to us to be translated here, at the honorary German Consulate. It took about two months to work through all these steps.

All of these processes take time, and can be somewhat expensive; but, once done, may never have to be done again in your life, so long as you don't lose the thing.

[Cancunscorpio]

If they are really sooooooo interested in moving to Cancun, how about they make a tiny effort and use the **search** option on this site and on internet in general, and show themselves that they are worthy and adult enough to make a move half the planet away. Coming in as a tourist and a permanent move are 2 different planets in fact...

[rawkus]

@Steve: Could we maybe make a sticky about "Moving to Cancun"?

Maybe one where we can all add things that we heard, read and experienced?

Im sure quite a few of us, if not each and everyone, has stuff to share.

[V]

...show themselves that they are worthy and adult enough to make a move half the planet away.

Are you kidding? Worthy? Their only talking about moving, not becoming a Jedi.

[TraceyUk]

V
the above comment made me giggle !!! Thanks xx

[rawkus]

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.”