Has visiting Mexico changed your opinion of a wall

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  1. Jon&CJ

    Jon&CJ Enthusiast Registered Member

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    I am just curious. I travel a lot for work and have been outside the US often. I am convinced that frequent travel changes your perspective.

    I cannot tell you how many countries I have visited where I find that people are all generally the same. They want to take care of their family, enjoy the fruits of their labor, find a sense of meaning in their work and finally screw around from time to time. These folks have homes, go to restaurants, hit the mall for a sale, and watch TV just like Americans.

    I have also had many colleagues who have come to the US for work. Most try to stay just as much as their Visa will allow.

    I definitely can understand trying to improve your situation if you are desperate. I applaud the kind of person who will not idly stand by and suffer the indignity of abject poverty.

    So my question is: Has your experiences interacting with the Mexican people changed your opinion of having a wall to keep them out?
     
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    How freaken stupid would that be,, who will cut the lawns , take care of the kids ( nannies) , construction laborers ,, the only reason they cross is cause US citizen hire them . The whole thing is a joke .
     
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    I must respectfully disagree with that statement. 99 and 44/100 percent of the people in the US can't afford to hire gardeners and nannies at any price. No one in my neighborhood has ever had an illegal immigrant mow their lawn.

    There are legal ways for anyone to visit, vacation, work, stay, become citizens if they choose to do so.

    A wall, whether literal of figurative, is not such a bad idea. And I can't put a lot of stock in our Canadian neighbors criticizing our need for some control when I know you won't let convicted felons from the US enter. It screwed up a fishing trip for a few of my buddies a couple of years ago when one of them was not allowed to cross the border because of a felony on his record.

    Also, if the "wall" complaint is just another way to slam Trump, like him or not, bear in mind that this idea has been around since long before his bid for the Oval Office
     
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    Wall can't stop illegal immigrants. That's it end of story.
    Yes it can put a big hole in US economy because Mexican president literally told i am not paying f^<{!~g penny for wall.


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    I'm just a Canadian that loves Mexico but here's my two cents. Countries have immigration rules and they should be followed. People that circumvent those rules have a good reason, usually one that involves the law. If it requires a wall, so be it, I do not know for sure but my best guess is there are already walls along sections of the US/Mexico border. Oh and no matter how much I love Mexico and its people there are parts of the country I would never go near.
     
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    Of course he couldn't enter if he has record. Maybe could have if he applied for entry.
    Same goes for Canadians entering the US. If you have anything on your record and I mean anything you need to apply for an entry waiver to enter the US.
     
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    The people in the us who want a wall are ignorant small,minded people i hope no one generlaizes our country based on them

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    You might want to debate this with those who live in Arizona, Texas, New Mexico and the other border states. They might have a different opinion about who the small-minded people are.

    Personally, I don't give a flyin fuck who lives and works here as long as they do it legally and are not here to engage in major crime activity. But just as someone has already said, if one has anything on their record, they can't cross the border. Without a "wall" of some kind this is impossible to monitor or control. It doesn't have to be a "Berlin" wall, or a great wall of China - it doesn't have to be a literal wall at all. No other country in the world has a wide-open border. But you just can't let any and all in without some kind of control.

    IMHO, anyone who labels another small-minded because they have an opposing viewpoint is calling the kettle black.
     
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    Humble suggestions for additional Travel Forum incendiary topics? ... capital punishment, euthanasia, abortion, concealed carry of firearms, Islam, politics ... yikes.
     
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    Are you sure? Id say there are very few countries that don't have a wide open border similar to that between US and Mexico.
     
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    Let's put it this way, my respect for the Mexican people and my love for my friends I have made during my many visits to the wonderful country in no way diminish my Desire to have enforceable immigration laws for my own country and to protect it's borders.

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    Something needs to be done to restrict the illegal immigration. Im from Houston area. There are neighborhoods here that are damn near nothing but illegals
     
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    I don't want to be political, that said there is a difference between Cancun, other tourist cites and the rest of Mexico. I do love the Mexico I know and its people.
     
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    Enough of this. We can talk politics on any other social media. Back to titties and beer!

    BTW, this is Sam, not Sindy.