Mexican Immigration Changes Coming

Discussion in 'Living in Cancun & Riviera Maya' started by RiverGirl, Apr 22, 2010.

  1. RiverGirl

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    Spoken like a true efficient-thinking first-worlder. It's not surprising for here, not at all. I know INM agents who think they "have a web site" because they have a hotmail email address, they are not a technical bunch. In fact one of their IT people made one of the biggest technical blunders I've seen in my 24 years in the tech industry. Impressive ignorance.

    Regardless, now the link is found and out and will get read by those agents who bother to read...
     
  2. mixz1

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    A Mexican neighbor of mine, owner of one of the largest engineering companies in Mexico, uses the term "creative incompetence". I think that sums it up nicely.
     
  3. Alma Libre

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    Makes sense to me eh....

    Hope they remember this at FM3 renewal time! :icon_smile:
     
  4. RiverGirl

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    Interestingly (well, I think so), the US Government is sending officials here to train INM in detection of false US Visas. Given the new procedure of allowing entry to Mexico to anyone with a Visa for the US this makes sense.

    I find high security documents really interesting, I think it's fascinating that you can detect if certain passports are fake just by touching the outside of them, or by smelling them.
     
  5. RiverGirl

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    So today is a Saturday, and it's the first full day of the new changes in INM policy. Not surprisingly the Cancun Airport INM checkpoints are a total disaster today.

    The new interview process is slowing things down on the busiest day of the week. Passengers are waiting more than 2 hours to get through. Old ladies are fainting. Kids are sleeping on the floor. INM agents are so grumpy that they don't want to work quickly, and with the new policies they can't work that quickly anyway. The predicted hell has broken loose.

    I feel badly for anyone coming to Cancun on vacation today, their welcome to Mexico leaves much to be desired.
     
  6. RiverGirl

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    It's gotten worse. People at the airport are saying that they've never seen such terrible conditions at the INM checkpoint. All kinds of people are fainting. Fistfights are breaking out. People are screaming. Lots of people are lying down because they can't take standing for so long. The new FMM forms are so poorly designed that passengers are making tons or errors filing them out, which slows down the lines immeasurably. It's a disaster!

    Mexican Government Fail!
     
  7. Life_N_Cancun

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    A local friend that came in yesterday afternoon (guess they started early) said the new FMM form that was handed out on the plane was ONLY in Spanish.... :eek: and it was about 2 1/2 hours to get through immigration...
     
  8. RiverGirl

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    The law was supposed to go into effect yesterday, but agents didn't get all their new instructions or their new stamps until today. So today is the first full day under the new rules with the new gear.

    The line is now over 3 hours long. People are close to rioting. INM may need to call the police in to keep order. (What they really should do is do what they do when the computer system goes down, just let people in without inspection.) The local INM management has completely failed to manage this properly. And the federal government has blown it with their roll out of the new changes. This is worse that predicted, much worse. The only thing left to go wrong is for the a/c to fail.
     
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    Mole and TJ, I think that I just filled out the form letter you're both referring to. It's called "Permisso de Salida y Entrada". This form is 99% identical to the FM3 Renewal form - which is now in their "capable" hands. After showing the form letter to the clerk at IMN, I was told by her that I had to go and pay $28.75 US at any nearby bank (Bancomer behind ADO) then return to her with 3 copies of the bank receipt. All tolled, it was about an hour - and a crazy return trip across`Av. Tulum.
     
  10. RiverGirl

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    Immigration line is now 4 hours long.
     
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    The air conditioning in INM in T3 quit working two hours ago.
     
  12. CancunMole

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    I was pretty sure that there was a fee but I couldn't remember the amount.

    Now, remember to guard it when you leave as you would the exit form so that your re-entry is a smooth as it can be especially based on RG's INM airport updates.

    Thanks RG for the updates and it doesn't sound pretty....
     
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    RiverGirl, I'm returning this Thursday. I left about three weeks ago on my FM3. Do you know if I will need to fill out the new form or can I enter on the form I was given?
     
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  14. Life_N_Cancun

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    Well.. hopefully they will figure things out sooner than later.. and within a week everything will get back to "normal". I've got my mom coming down later this month and I'll be seriously pissed if she has to stand for hours on end waiting on immigration. Seems it would be simple enough to just put a few extra agents at the check-in lines to speed things along, but somehow I doubt they would do anything so logical.

    RG.. do you have a scan of the new form yet so I might show my mom how to fill it out before she leaves?
     
  15. V

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    Courtesy to older people

    Life, I've seen elderly people pulled out of line (by those assigned to monitor the line), to be taken up to the front for immediate service: alerting your mom to ask for this, if it's not offered, might do the trick.
     
  16. Life_N_Cancun

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    Thanks V, but my mom would probably get a little offended if I suggested she were elderly..

    I might tell her to put an ankle brace on before she leaves the plane thou..;)
     
  17. e.b.

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    I would love to see that form too. I found one on another site but it was too small and blurred when enlarged. Hope all those folks finally got through. What a nightmare.
     
  18. RiverGirl

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    Do both, to be safe, because right now it's not clear what you should do. The new FMM form IS supposed to be used by FM2/3 holders when we re-enter Mexico. But since you already have your return form stamped you might need it instead, this time.

    Next time you will use the new FMM form for sure.

    Life - I really wish I thought it would be back to normal by then, but for a variety of reasons (which I will write about here later on today) I don't think so. A few more agents won't do it (and they don't have the agents to add anyway).

    A little later on I will post scans of the new forms, I've got them now.

    Seriously, unless things are markedly better by then advise your mom to request wheelchair help when she boards and exits the plane. Coming off the plane in a wheelchair will give her priority in the INM line and if there's a wait she already has a chair to sit in. Tell her to get over her pride, wheelchair users get VIP treatment in airports.

    Yesterday the wait was so bad that anyone with any serious health issues was in danger. Many people fainted even before the a/c quit working. It was really, really bad.

    I've got a time constraint right now but will write more later on about all the changes that have been rolled out.
     
  19. CancunMole

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  20. kathy_caribe

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    I'm coming back Thursday as well. Aghast at RG's reports, and I'm hoping for better on Thursday. I have my red FM3 form - we'll see how it goes.