One year of the new TTR - What does it still need?

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  1. jnine

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    Since August marks the reopening of TTR post renovation, this might be a good time to reflect on what guests would most like management to change to make the TTR experience even better. There seem to be quite a few recurring items mentioned on this forum and on the Facebook pages, but lets come up with some solid, easy to implement changes that would make the experience better for all. They have made improvements to the poolside and Bash seating, so apparently they do hear us, and Steve says management lurks on these pages to get feedback. Maybe if we can get a group of ideas together they can make the changes requested.

    Here are a few to start...

    POOL HOURS... Can this be extended based on the season? It closes a little too soon for the warmer or busy months. Another hour would be nice.

    HOT TUB... It would also be very nice to extend Hot Tub hours until an hour after the pool closes, and then REOPEN at midnight, similar to the old Sports pool. Hot water would be a welcome feature also.

    SATURDAY NIGHTS on the ROOF. Why not make this space more special with the party moved upstairs one day a week? This would be a good way to introduce new guests to the area, and to use the existing space. If weather does not permit one night, then swap nights.

    POOL DEPTH... There's no getting around it; they screwed up and a lot of guests do not like the depth. The easiest solution might be to build a small deck / shelf around all or part of the perimeter at the bottom. Perhaps a small deck 3' wide and 6 to 9" above the pool bottom would help shorter guests utilize the pool better. It doesn't have to be the entire perimeter, and perhaps only the half closest to the ramp would be enough. This could easily be done. Build it off site, and drop it in overnight.

    SAFETY TREAD on STEPS.. Please stick some safety tread material on the steps. They can be a major hazard. I am thinking mostly of the ones in the lobby.

    PICTURE POLICY... Pictures of your significant other or friends are fine. But PLEASE try to maintain a better camera policy. It's getting out of hand and can kill the sexy vibe quick, and with no sexy vibe, no TTR.
     
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  2. Donna & Tim

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    Agree with all that you mentioned.
    Below is what I have read not witnessed.
    Read some reports about the sexy pool and bash bars being under staffed.
    No one likes the room blinds and how they operate.
    Put a leash on the timeshare people, too pushy.
    I don't want to start a clothing war but nice dress shorts and shirts should be allowed in the restaurants for the guys, they always were in the past.
    Last but not least the music change it up some.


    T
     
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    Needs more cowbell
     
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    So very much agree on pool hours, hot tub (the whole point is to use these at night.... or so I would think), and pool depth.

    Headed there this weekend - our 3rd since the reno. What's going on with the roof? There was nothing during our last 2 trips.
     
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    1. Allow some PDA on the beach after 2am.
    2. Change the music daily...
    3. Have the lingerie party in the sports bar and make it mandatory for entrance. (Risqué)
     
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    Arrrggghhh...!!!

    Ice machines on the outer parts of the resorts AND...NO CELL PHONES around the topless part of the resort. :mad: :D
     
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    They need to change the DJ

    Listening to the same playlist night after night is booooooring
     
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  8. jnine

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    All of the suggestions seem like very simple fixes that would improve the guests experience. Other than the price for a small platform at the bottom of the pool they cost ZERO, and even that would be quite affordable. Every one of us probably spends more on our vacation than the pool deck would cost. And the good thing about the list of suggestions is, none of it is simply personal preference. They are all good for the the entire group and not just one individual or couple. I am wondering if we can submit this to the owners and upper management and get their perspective.
     
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    They could install some normal type pool skimmers, maybe 6 to 8 of them that would lower the pool water level the 8 to 10 inches everyone wants, LOL and then the sexy girl at the bottom of the pool would not be covered by a platform.

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  10. Stacia_and_John

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    Let me see. I think I'd like, after hearing many conversations on these issues since last August (we were there on soft-Opening Day, then again for Halloween (H&H 2017), again in March of 2018 then again July 15-22 2018....

    Pool depth: It ended up working out a bit better this past July than before. I think the water level went down just a bit... maybe as much as 2 inches, so for the 5'1" (on a good posture day) Stacia, that two inches made the whole difference. You still can't see her boobies unless you are right there and can see through the water, but hey... easy to see them when she's out of the pool. I've no idea if this is transient, or just a function of evaporation, or what.

    Sky Bar: Not quite "completely" underutilized, but one of the principal places which could be exploited better. It closes at 6:00 p.m. Why is that? Shoot, in July it wasn't even starting to get dark until about 9:00 p.m. They might invest in some sort of mister up there to actively cool the pool water, it begins t get hot as a bath in the mid-day. Those things are cheap, starting at ~$40 or so for a simple home model, so I'd imagine they could get something attractive and commercial grade which would work well to knock 8-10 degrees out of that pool for less than $300 USD, guessing. You pool contractors can correct me. Suggest away, I'd really like this problem corrected to maximize the upstairs.

    Photo policy: Totally inconsistent. Upstairs at the Sky Bar pool, a guy asked his wife to pose (in her complete bikini) on one of the sides, with scenic overlook. They set up the shot, and security was on them, telling them "No photo - no photo." No nudity, nobody else int he pic, the pic would have been ahelluva advert for the Temptation Sky Bar & Pool... but no photo - no photo. Contrast that with it's open picture time pre-Bash at the Sports Bar and some shenanigans were going on and nobody said or did a thing. Weird, and inconsistent.

    As J9 said, if this continues, TTR just can't be TTR for a lot of us anymore. Too strangled. And yes, I get that lots of folks don't want their pics taken and facebooked…. but quite a few do want the pic-memories for later... when they.. um... sober up.

    Generally a dangerous set of flat surfaces. Lots of slippery-sliddy-fally-downy areas, right next to sharply-squarey-pointy-edgy surfaces. Fall down, go boom. Needs fixed. LOTS of alcohol is served here daily. Even if Mexico premises liability law isn't the same as other countries... people are already complaining, and complaints lead to non-returns.

    Pool Music: What's witht he live bands? I'm just asking. All of the sudden, live bands are the thing around the pool a lot now? I understand some people dig bands, but it's usually at night, right? not when I'm trying to roam around the pool socializing. Just my thought. Next, can we get rotating DJ's at the various pools, so that things get mixed up a bit more? Might fix all the complaints about the same ol' same ol' all the time.

    Butlers: Get rid of the butler service. There aren't enough to actually do the job properly, so people are more pissed-off at having the butler than they would have been if there'd been no butler at all.

    Remote systems: The rooms are overly-complexified, what witht hat control to run literally everything in the room... which only actually works about 40% of the time. Physically opening curtains was fine... it didn't need automation, which could, and therefore has, been broken. A lot.

    Premier desk: Last time we showed up, July, the person in the premier office greeted us with, "Is this your first time to Temptation?"

    "Uh, no... we're int he premier room, checking in." That to me is a hugh hole in their systems, training, something. Shouldn't there be a ticker that says to them ont he screen when the people arrive The "So&so's have been guests of Temptation 22 times. So don't ask them stupid questions which devalue their investment in returning." Again, just my $0.02.

    Pool closing time: I am confused about why there is not an area, even if security manned, where pool time is allowed at night.

    The complete "No Play" attitude of security: Just be aware that, in spite of this not ever having been a problem before, there is apparently a growing security presence, blessed by TTR management, to put the damper down on any sort of fooling around, yes, even up to and including in your closed room, at night, with light off. A female security guard was seen by not 1, not 2 or 3, but 6 different people I spoke with walking along the quiet pool (remember those are the main rooms that premier members of old get placed), and shining her mag light into the open curtained rooms … I suppose to make sure that nobody was having a congugal visit. Friends of ours (not all the same people) had this same light shined on them, as in the way PD does it - right into the face - when they were making out on a palapa down on the beach, another when they Were humpily-dumpling along on a chaise down on the beach, another couple who were just chilling and laughing in their hot tub. So, just be aware.

    I would like to know what management really wants to convey about TTR's environment as to the "Adult fun playground" that TTR is supposed to be. The signals are full of contradictions.
     
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  11. jd3131

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    What would everyone think about the Sexy Pool shutting down at say 6:00 or 7:00 and than they can do their daily maintenance or whatever and the party moves upstairs to the Sky Bar from say 7:00 to Midnight each night?

    From there you can open up Bash like normal and than the hot tub is open as the after "Bash" spot (like the old sports pool).....? It seems this would keep the party going in the evening hours it would force the party into a more confined/controlled space (good and bad about that :) and really take advantage of what should be a "Crown Jewel" of the new-renovated TTR by showcasing the Rooftop pool bar. In the evening I suspect the water temp would be more reasonable and the party overlooking the water and the resort would be awesome!

    This would be awesome for the party, cheaper even for the resort as the security/staff presence would just shift around from one pool to the next and would be a great way for the resort to capitalize on their investment....
     
  12. Jen&Kyle

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    I agree with this logic. At Desire they shift the party and staff from the pool to the jacuzzi at about 5.

    Could do the same thing at TTR from the sexy pool to the sky bar at 5 or 6. Have a dj, apps, could utilize the jacuzzi up there, enjoy the sunset and the amazing views. And the closer quarters and the alcohol flowing I am sure would have the same effect as Desire where people socialize more and strike up conversations and shots etc. Easily avoidable if you want to do the dinner thing. But gives the diehards another option. Instead of closing at 6 keep it open until 10. Open later in the morning if you have to due to staff costs.

    Think it would work and allow the party to continue and make a better use of the sky bar.
     
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    Biggest complaint is the 2 to a Bash tower rule when it's more sq footage than the rooms that allow 3. Some of us want 3 people in a bed
     
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    When we were there in July, the Sexy Pool closed everyday at 7pm, ok close the bar but clear the pool ? (party ends), unlike our previous visit (Nov), the Jacuzzi was hardly used and certainly no party, that facility should be encouraged . Phone/Camara policy, there everywhere, very little action (once during our 14 day trip a sign came out oooh and JJ did mentioned it a few times). I sat one afternoon and watched an “established member” filming the pool action without any sanction, even though he was taking regular drinks from the bar and in clear shot of security….. very mixed messages, but then again , is the pool that wild now ??….
     
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    This is a great idea! The sky bar is completely under utilized.
     
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    Right and if the concern is that it will split the party then close it at 10. People then head to Bash
    If the concern is staff costs then open later in the day. Morning people can find their peace and quiet in the morning elsewhere.
    If the concern is bad behavior when the sun goes down well that should be easier to watch / police in the smaller space than having the sexy pool open late.
    Seems like the resort is pushing the Bash rooms hard. Likely as it results in more income for them. This surely would result in more people booking Bash.
    AI's typically want people at the buffets instead of their higher cost restaurants and this would pull even more people out of those restaurants and free up space for those that want the nice dinners. Have just apps up there and a make shift buffet with app type stuff.
    To solve for the variety of music complaint change the dj up there. 80's night, EDM night, hair band night, 70's night, etc. depending on the day of the week. Would be fun.

    I just dont see the negative.
     
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    the entire business model based on segregating Premier and non Premier needs to change

    the pool is just too deep.

    they need to strictly enforce the NO photography rule at the pool and at bash.

    they need to do a better job of promoting...not restricting...a sexy party vibe (like it used to be) complete with promoting body shots etc

    reinstate the lingerie party like it used to be in the sports bar area with lingerie mandatory

    get rid of the vanilla groups and kids who gather every morning right in front of the jacuzzi rooms by the quiet pool. it is ridiculous that the allow children ON PROPERTY every morning right in front of people rooms and balconies.

    better, sexier, longer use of the hot tub

    pools open later.
     
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    Good thread. The extended rooftop bar hours would require additional security due to the likelihood some over intoxicated individual playing around the railing. I wonder if that is at the heart of them not keeping it open later and at night.
     
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    I guess it is possible but it doesn't add up to me. Frankly it has never felt like the resort is too concerned about guest safety in relation to the physical build.. Basing this off of design of the new TTR build. Plus you would really have to make a big effort to get over the barriers around the pool / party area. See in this pic. There is a pathway on the other side of the pool. Pretty difficult to get over that wall unless you are trying to jump and if that is the case cant really blame the resort. Wall is shorter on the ends but those areas are more lounge like. Would think the party would be where the dance floor, bar, stripper poles, pool and jacuzzi is.

     
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    That may be true, but it is not a problem that can't be solved. It really seems such a unique space they spent a ton of money creating should be better utilized. It would possibly even help draw more guests to the resort. Nobody else can offer it.