US Election 2016

Discussion in 'Free For All' started by Steve, Feb 3, 2016.

  1. Gus&Diane

    Gus&Diane Enthusiast Registered Member

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    Almost everyone I hear wants trump, but then again he is the only one who won't take shit from anyone, he believes in a armed society, Clinton wants to take guns away from law abiding citizens good luck with that.
     
  2. Steve

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    So Cruz drops out. It's Trump vs Hilary. Congrats Hilary.

    Like I said earlier, if the Republicans keep putting up unelectable candidates, they will keep on being unelected. I cant believe this clutch of Republican nominees represented the best the US has.
     
  3. twinimini

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    It's also hard to fathom that the best the Dems can put up is a crook and nasty old man who hates anyone who has ever worked. That is a very sad commentary on both parties.
     
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    Were screwed either way.
     
  5. Cathy & Jim

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    I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch. Even though the media and some of you think Hillary is a shoe in to win, I would disagree. This has been a unique year for politics and I would think there are still a lot of surprises left in the bag. As soon as Trump speeches start becoming more respectful and presidential, people will forget in a hurry all his past comments. Several of my democratic union friends will be voting for Donald. Just by looking at Indiana, there are a lot of people that don't like Hillary. I don't think it will be a gimme for Hillary.
     
  6. twinimini

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    I have no doubt that both Hillary and Donald are probably the two most disliked candidates in my memory at least. They both seem to bring new meaning to the term the "lesser of two evils" when it comes time to vote.

    I still think that there may be some very unique wild cards to be played yet. Consider this, Bernie's fanatics won't take no for an answer and run him as an independent. The Republican Party fragments and runs a more moderate candidate like Kasich or Ben Sasse. Now we have four potential candidates seeking the same office. That could get interesting, although the last time that happened was when Ross Perot ran and it basically gave us Bill Clinton as President when Perot split the Republican vote. That may happen again but who will be the winner this time?
     
  7. bigsexy&misssexy2012

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    I have reserved comment here, however I'll throw in my two cents as I did with some friends this past weekend. There are roughly 45% stalwart Democrats and 45% stalwart Republican / conservatives. A fair number of both of those groups don't like either candidate so a percentage will peel off to the independence or the third parties. I think that those sanders fans won't take no for an answer they also know that they don't want Donald Trump as president. In addition, a fair number of people I know who are Republicans who said they would never vote for anyone but Republicans have already publicly declared for Hillary Clinton. I don't think it's a shoo-in, and I think it will be a lot closer than anyone expects, but at the end of the day barring anything unforeseen it's a fair bet that Hillary has better odds than anyone of winning this election. I think for the next several Cycles is going to be the 10% in the middle who are going to decide who falls into the Oval Office. The true Moderates not the ones with strong convictions one side or the other

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  8. Steve

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    Finally it's reckoning day. So glad I wont have to listen to Hilary screeching and shouting at her rallies any more.

    I've watched a lot of coverage, and if I had a vote it would be for Trump. Despite the best efforts of Lady Gaga to convince otherwise (really?!)

    Like Brexit in the UK, this is probably the last chance for the good folks of the US to take back control of their country and hold off the open borders, virtue signalling, globalist, Europe destroying policies of the liberal left. It hasn't worked in Europe it wont work in the US.

    I'll leave you with the comments of a British commentator who sums up, far better than I can, why Trump is a better choice than Hilary.



    Could this be Brexit #2 ??
     
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    Unfortunately I think you/ we will still have to suffer she is probably going to win. If she does win it’s only going to get worse.:flagusa:
     
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    I think it's an interesting point. Worst is relative depending upon your perspective. For example, generally speaking people who self-identify as Democrats are fairly happy with the current state of our government. They like President Obama like Joe Biden they like Bill Clinton they like Hillary Clinton. I frankly identify with that group and I'm going to say so. However, the folks who are on the other side are generally not happy with the State of Affairs of the government and the country and have a very negative perception of where things are going. If you look back through history you can see a cyclical turn of control back and forth between whatever the two primary political parties were. That's cycle has been thrown off the last 30 years due to more extremes on both sides. I suspect that whoever wins this election will be a four-year term with control flipping back at the end of the next four years, and we will be in a ongoing cycle of for your presidencies probably through the next three or four election Cycles. I don't believe it's all doom and gloom, I do believe that good intentioned people in the middle need to work together to get things done. If one party pouts, takes their ball and goes home rather than digs in and does the hard work of making the government work then we are stuck.

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  11. twinimini

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    I'm one of those people who are not at all happy with where Obama and friends have taken us. We have a debt that is rapidly approaching a level that is unsustainable and is only going to get worse due to the onerous problems of Obamacare. Obamacare has been nothing but a lie to the American people and just another political boondoggle. We have a foreign policy that is in shambles and we are quite literally a laughing stock around the world. To add to that we have more regulations than what any business can live with. Some may be well intended, but in reality they will hurt the small business and small investor much more than the big guys.

    Am I a Trump supporter? No, I'm not, but I don't see Clinton as a viable option either. She is a crook, a liar, and a thief, and those are her good points. There may be as many as four Supreme Court openings in the next four years and you could see the extreme left represented by the Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warrens of the word take over the Court and lead us into destruction. I am not optimistic for my kids and grand kids.
     
  12. ScubaSteve

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    Steve thanks for posting that video. That pretty much summed up most of my thoughts in a very clear logical way. I was just saying to a co-worker the other day that sometimes you can get a better sense of things from foreign news, because the way media works in the country is just so broken.
     
  13. Donna & Tim

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    Totally agree about the video and about you calling the media broken.

    M = Make
    E = Everyone
    D = Dumb
    I = In
    A = America

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    Get ready for President Donald!!
     
  15. Donna & Tim

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    So how many people believe in miracles, hang on tight it's gone to be a hell of a ride.

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  16. twinimini

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    The reaction of the Left has been unbelievable. Here is a group that touts their tolerance of gays, Muslims, and others but yet they can't seem to tolerate an opinion other than their own. Yale University had to cancel mid-term exams because the students were so "emotionally distraught" that they could not take the test. You see the demonstrations on college campuses and the only thought that comes to my mind is wow, what a bunch of spoiled brats. I see posts on Facebook that people are fearing for the lives of their families and I really have to wonder how these people can possibly function in the real world.

    I'm not a Donald Trump fan, but the reaction of the Left has been beyond comprehension. Funny, but the last time I checked there were no demonstrations, riots, or social unrest when Obama got elected. Gee, I guess maybe those of us on the right of center tend to be a hell of a lot more tolerant than our friends on the left.
     
  17. Snowflakemelter

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    There are very few Scoop Jackson Dems left, or Reagan Republicans. All DC swamp cronies. They are going to lie cheat steal and murder to stop Trump. You can see it with the CIA spooks already. Trump is a great guy and has just the right take no shit personality to defeat them - if he can stay safe. It's going to be a battle everyday - never believe the media.