WATCH OUT PREMIER MEMBERS

Discussion in 'Temptation Resort Cancun' started by Jim and Kathy in Ohio, Jan 18, 2007.

  1. Jim and Kathy in Ohio

    Jim and Kathy in Ohio Guest

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    OHcpl I just read your thread again... $1100 per weekis for 2 ppl and that includes the AI correct? Plus the RCI fees, whatever thase are for weeks members. PLUS airfare.. Guessing Airfare at least $1000, so let'sall it $2,100 for the week

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    Great savings eh?
     
  2. gowick

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    Wow first time I have been flamed on this message board.

    First off at this point I see no reason to leave the contract.

    Secondly I really didn't get this contract for the rci portion. It's potentially a nice benefit but not a huge deal for me

    Lastly ...I agree with you that trading into this resort doesn't make much sense..
    I knew some people last year who traded in and paid more In AI then I paid totally.

    I still say however that people don't all have the same contracts and so their feelings aren't the same
     
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    I am just trying to understand the whole expense. so do you pay a monthly payment to be a premier member?
     
  4. gowick

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    My understanding is that OHcpl is not a premier member, but an RCI member who transferred in via exchange.

    I agree that OHcpl should re-look at their situation and see if they can bank their exchange and just come as regular hotel customers
     
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    Ok, so for your premier membership, do you pay a monthly fee?
     
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    Everyone I didnt mean to start animosity towards anyone I was just trying to get some info from people who have been there.
     
  7. gowick

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    No.

    I pay a yearly fee of $99.00 to Premier and then an yearly exchange fee to RCI (its between $75.00 to $150.00, I don't remember)
     
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    Not really "Premier Membership"

    My husband and I just got back from 2 weeks and our first time as Premier members in Cancun! I have to say, completely disappointed!! We started going 3 years ago, first to Cancun and it was so awesome, onto the Cabo Temptations where we purchased the membership. We wanted to go back to Cancun, so we did. The room was not the upgrade we requested or paid for (in advance), the 2nd room when they moved us had an unresolved ant problem (drawers, wall, closet everywhere). Second day of arrival, asked our maid for Diet Cola - she gave us 2, we tipped her as usual. Next day, now only 3rd out of 10...the entire resort was out of Diet Cola and none could be put in fridge. Or at least that is what we were told! Out of 10 days we were able to make only 3 dinner reservations. Nothing is set aside for Premier members, you get screwed if it's booked. Even if you ask for help from the "VIP Room", they can only make dinner reservations now 3 days in advance. Three years ago, we stood in line, met some great people and made our plans for the entire week. Only Premier alcohol served now until 5pm, when the upstairs "private members" area is and then on the beach! Nothing at the sexy pool or quiet pool after that time. While we just absolutely love the staff (main reason we returned), I left with a sense of...did we just get screwed or are we treated differently since we purchased in Cabo!!?? The highlight of the trip, renting the yacht (but again, no premier alcohol aboard). No "turn down" service as listed on the Member benefits sheet. Not that it would have made a difference, but you sure start checking the list when you feel unhappy! Don't advertise it if you aren't going to do it - period! The lobster dinner was HORRIBLE! Went to ask for a late check out, since our list says we have until 4pm 'subject to availability' and was told, you can have until 12p with no charge!!! HUH?? Since when did the charge exist for members...? If it wasn't available then it's not available. If it was available, then it's available until 4pm with NO CHARGE. Chino is no longer there (neither is Tia) HUGE failure in the 2 replacements they now have, so we actually spent more time away from the sexy pool, which was not the plan. The RCI Portion is a complete joke in which we will not be renewing. I think I would have rather gone as a non-member and have them treat us special than as a member and leave disappointed. There were so many tours and people getting sucked in, thankfully we were able to save 2 from not! Will we go back.......question stays unanswered at this time. Maybe to Cabo as members to see what happens there.
     
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    As a previous member of RCI and a Grand Vacation Owner read your contract. I was not allowed to forgo my membership under any circumstances.

    Then they bought in the rule that under extreme circumstances membership could be reviewed, ie death of partner who's name was on the deeds, if you had no dependents to whom you could pass this onto. Well this happened to me in 2004. It has taken until this year to sort things out even after probate, and saying that they would have to declare me bankrupt next year as I could not manage to pay the maintenance fees for 2012. I went through the appeals procedure and eventually won, when I could prove that this was not in the original contract. This is after setting my debt into the hands of a debt recovery agency who sent out threatening letters!!!!

    Never ever again would I go into timeshare.

    This also made on strain on my new relationship, but thank goodness he stood by me while I took all the flack.
    RCI, Timeshare, never ever again.
    No matter what they say at the time of signing. They can change the constitution at any AGM at which so very few people turn out as they hold them at some obscure place.

    Take heed folks of what could happen.

     
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    Is grand vacation a former name of original resorts?
     
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    Grand Vacation here covered a whole load of resorts through out the world. RCI is the exchange company used to exchange into other resorts through out the world.
     
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    I know I upset some people on this....

    all i want is people to discuss apples to apples.

    exchanging in with rci is not the same as
    exchanging out with rci

    is not the same as premier rci weeks
    is not the same as rci by day

    clearly some people got screwed by original, and some by rci

    but people have a lot of different programs.
     
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    Well that is one of the issues trying to discuss anything to do with Premier. The program has been changed so many times and sold at so many different price points that no two are alike usually. It started out as a perk for repeat guest. In fact you had to be a repeat guest to even listen or buy into Premier. But once RCI dug there claws in it went south quickly. Then they started selling nights, points, weeks, trading these weeks or nights, selling points or nights for airfare, AI fess, to VISA gift cards, and all kinds of combinations within it.

    For me.....I was one of the first people in when it started. For what I paid I made all my money back on savings by my 6th to 8th week for sure. I got lucky and used about 10 weeks or so pretty quickly(still have like 14-15 weeks left). Through the years they have really jacked up the AI fees to the point that its about break even at best when comparing booking a vacation through Alpharooms or Apple or any travel service. During certain times of the year I can easily go way cheaper booking it myself.

    AI fee increases have really pissed a lot of members off. When you start talking $100+ per a person per a day it just doesn't add up to much of any savings and many times of the year actually cost you more then booking it yourself. Also benefits of Premier have been changed many many many times during the last decade. Some for the better but also many changes for the worse.

    The math worked out to my favor when I bought in and I knew I could take advantage of it while the getting was good. So I got my money out of it. I just don't know how much I'm even going to use it anymore. I don't mind if I pay an extra $100 or $200 cause I get some perks finally. But alot of members have been completely taking to the cleaners by Premier and RCI.
     
  14. drew_buckeye

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    Wow, I wish I would have read all this stuff before we signed up. We joined the RCI weeks program last year after our second visit. I did the math and if we stay for 7 days it would be the same as paying for 5 days through other travel website. Its a good deal, but far from a great deal. I just hope they don't change the contract or fees or else it's not worth it.

    After getting the premier package we were very disappointed. It's like all the other workers don't care about you anymore other than your server at the pool. After tipping the premier server a couple pesos in the morning he constantly filled our drinks and checked if we needed anything else. This was great while we were at the pool, but when we went to other bars we were barely looked at. One night we went to the sports bar before nice shoes opened. There were only a few other people in the bar. The bartender got us our first drink no problem, but then wouldn't even look at us to get another one. He kept trying to act like he was busy cleaning or finding small things to do. We waited ~10 minutes and then just left.

    Oh well, live and learn :aktion060:
     
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    Well through the years the staff has been told multiple things on how to handle Premier members. Also some bartenders are just better then others. Behind the scenes they(Temptations) also play a game of how much alcohol should be served each day. You ever notice how they never run out of the cheap stuff. :biggrinbandit:

    I hate to say you should tip just to get better service because it shouldn't be the case. But one dollar to them is like someone giving us $5-$10 to get one drink. Many of the workers haven't always worked in the AI resort business before so they learned the trade outside of the resort. In Cancun its very common practice in the tourist areas to play the ignore game to get a tip at bars. For me to part with $10-$20 worth of tips each day to get great/instant service I don't mind. Especially since I know how much some of them make.
     
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    Another good point...I give them 10-20 per session if i am going to be there for a while
     
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    Can anyone tell me what the details are?

    We loved Temptation, and I like the ideas about the other original resorts ...

    What were looking for is an all inclusive timeshare where we pay for so many weeks of usage per year at a certain rate for a certain duration of time ... is this the actual way it works?


    M.
     
  18. drew_buckeye

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    When we signed up last year as an RCI weeks member this is basically how it works. You pay a flat fee (very very negotiable as we got it ~33% off the asking price) and can sign up for the platinum, gold, or silver package. Each package comes with a price and a certain amount of weeks (we signed up for the silver package to try it out). We negotiated the package for 25 weeks that we can use within 25 years. We can use the weeks at any Temptation resort (except Desire) and pay something like $400 a week plus AI fees ($20 a night or so depending on season). We can also book at other resorts, but you have to put in a request in advance (Haven't tried this yet, but sounds simple). The only maintenance fee is an RCI fee of $100 a year (so they say) until we use up our weeks.

    The RCI packages are very negotiable, so make sure you act like you aren't very interested. You can negotiate the weeks and price to get the best deal possible.
     
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    Our contract mentions referral weeks but I can't find any information about them anywhere online. Can someone give me a quick rundown on referral weeks? Pros? Cons? Thanks in advance.
     
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    Great question about the referral weeks. We negotiated ours down to only 1 and got something else. I haven't seen this anywhere online either. You might try calling and asking. If you find out, you should let me know.