When will Americans Learn?

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  1. Lenni & Jodie

    Lenni & Jodie The Unicorn Hunters Registered Member

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    Being Canadian I really have no interest in owning a gun, shooting a gun, hunting animals, being at a gun show, nor being around anyone who has a gun. There is yet another report of shootings at 3 different gun shows in the USA and 5 people injured due to complete stupidity and basic common sense.

    What will have to happen before the next big incident or several small one's for that matter before? Comments like it's our right to own one, and we're protecting our families really don't make sense as everyone has the basic right to not get shot and accidentally injured or killed either. Our government is taking over if we don't have our guns..... hint, you're government is the largest military in the world, I don't think you stand a chance again them.

    Looking forward to reading the responses

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    V I can choose my own title Registered Member

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    Resort to arms seems ingrained, whether it's on the international or domestic scene.

    I don't think Americans are actually that afraid, but they sure do act like it.
     
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    They'll never learn evrywhere else got the right idea guns should be for military only
     
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    So, you think guns are the problem? Your so wrong. it's just a tool that has no mind, It takes a body to make it work, just like your car, phone, gas grill, and your computer. If someone wants to hurt someone else, they don't need a gun. What kind of damage do think 5 gallons of gas could do? A baseball bat? A machete? A car? Can you really depend on the police to protect you? Average time for police time to respond, 10 minutes.....anywhere. Good luck.And yes I'm a Proud Gun Owner,Hunter and not afraid to protect my family!
    I have the RIGHT to do that, you don't.
     
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    Give a man a gun he can shoot 10 people take it off him he can't shoot anyone
     
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    Give him a knife, can stab all he wants. And know one hear's him.
     
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    We can do this all day, shoot, stab, run over by a car. Dead is dead. But not in my house!
     
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    I see your point but guns give people a false sense of power and control and do alot more bad than good
     
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    Don't lump all of us Canadians in with this rhetoric. I believe that if a person has a clean record and has proven safe handling through the mandatory courses in order to obtain a licence, a person should be allowed to have a gun. Do I think it's a right? No, but if you can prove you can handle one, why not? I happen to enjoy owning a gun, going to a shooting range and target shooting.. "being Canadian".

    I'm not so sure it's the gun policy in the USA that's the problem. There was a study done that suggested 80% of the world's psychopaths live in the USA. 80% of the entire world's psychopath population in one country. A gun is just a tool.

    Guns cause violence like flies cause garbage.
     
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    No sense of power or control for us, a sense of protection living 20 miles away from the nearest law enforcement.
    And the ability to hunt on my farm or take part in sport shooting events..........
     
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  12. Lenni & Jodie

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    See this thread is turning into a hate speech lol. I have nothing against guns or gun ownership, I personally have no use for them or care for them. I am just tired of reading all the bs that goes along with the topic.

    If you are a responsible gun owner and have gone thru all the proper channels to getting one, taken courses, and keep your gun safely locked away and the ammunition away in a seperate locked storage unit then sure. However that isn't the case.

    "According to the Congressional Research Service, in 2009 there were an estimated 310 million firearms in the United States (not including weapons on military bases), of which 114 million were handguns, 110 million were rifles, and 86 million were shotguns. The current population of the United States, according to the Census, is around 314 million."

    These numbers are insane and this is just the civilian population, not the military. Trying to say baseball bats, gasoline, cars, and knifes are just as dangerous is silly. Yes I understand guns aren't dangerous, bullets don't kill people, that it is people who kill people. However back to the original post on this thread, it is about using common sense with gun ownership, especially if you live in The United States considering that if you accidentally got shot, most Americans don't have either health insurance or enough health insurance to cover the cost of being accidentally shot or shot intentionally.

    Let say you own a gun and you carry it around loaded with the permit, someone robs you, and you pull out your gun to defend yourself, however you end up losing it in fight and the robber now has your gun and shoots you, however you don't have enough insurance to cover the cost medical expenses, now you're out of pocket for more than what you originally had in your pocket.

    Hunting is a different story, unless you hunt with Dick Chaney lol, what do you think a guns magazine should hold in rounds....6 bullets, 10 bullets, how many is too many?

    By the way, I know it is hard to understand the tone of my voice while reading this, this thread is about using common sense and guns, the original link is about people getting accidentally shot by others who should of used more caution with their fire arm's at a gun show. It is not about Americans who are crazy gun weilding yahoo's, and I don't believe the stats that 80% of the people living in the USA are crazy, we're all crazy in one shape or another. But that is a totally different topic
     
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    Did you know a wine cork fits perfectly in a snorkel?
     
  14. Lenni & Jodie

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    Wouldn't have the first clue, I am not a wine drinker as my snorkel is always full of Jager & Tequila shots

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    Well here's to ya. BTW, Socks do more than keep your feet warm.
     
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    We Americans are wondering when you all will learn. :)

    Even with guns, the US has one of the lowest assault numbers in the western world. Even the cops in the UK are learning that having a gun on patrol can save their life. I wonder if the baby seals in Canada would rather be shot once or beaten several times with a club until they die.

    No one is without faults. Once you are without any, maybe then you can be sanctimonious enough to judge others.

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    The numbers don't lie - I just don't get it I guess - Legal or Illegal

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    I feel a "UK is the most violent country in the World" post coming on.

    One of the reasons is because the US definition of assault is different to most other countries you try to compare yourselves to when discussing that stat. Always makes me laugh, when talking about violent crime rate US folks talk about the Western world (and usually quote the same UK right wing newspaper article published 3 years ago in the run up to an election). But when comparing gun deaths they compare themselves to the whole World - Somalia, Afghanistan, Yemen etc and say that it's not so bad.

    Example: The reported US violent crime rate includes only Aggravated Assault, whereas the Canadian violent crime rate includes all categories of assault, including the much-more-numerous Assault level 1 (i.e., assault not using a weapon and not resulting in serious bodily harm). In the UK over half the violent crimes reported resulted in no injury. There is no universal recording method for violence/assault so any comparisons are not directly comparable.

    Add in the fact that the US has a large proportion of population not close to law enforcement like Chris & Tammy above, so many incidents get unreported or unresponded and subsequently unrecorded.

    What is beyond dispute is that the number of deaths due to firearms are much lower in countries with strict gun controls than those with liberal controls. Every country has the same definition of death by firearm.
     
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    I think most wouldnt disagree with that. I think they've known it a long time too, not just learning though. It's a matter of choice, there is a different method of policing in the UK compared to the US.

    I'd definitely agree with guns for the Police in the UK. Guns should be for the Police and the Military only though.
     
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